3 DACA Deal-Breakers

President Donald Trump’s supporters are increasingly concerned that he is going to capitulate to Democrats’ demands as Congress wrestles with the canceled Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

In ending the program last week, the president allowed a six-month window for Congress to decide what should happen to its beneficiaries. And media reports suggest that Democrats have the upper hand in negotiations.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi is pushing for a vote on the so-called “Dream Act,” which Congress failed to pass during the first two years of the Obama administration, when Democrats controlled both houses and had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. Alternatively, Democrats may succeed in codifying DACA in law in return for measly concessions on border security — which do not include funding for Trump’s long-promised border wall.

President Trump is partly to blame for this state of affairs, after giving up much of his early negotiating leverage by suggesting that Congress’s job would be to “legalize” DACA. He has yet to say what concessions he will demand in return — i.e. what provisions would cause him to veto a DACA bill. Without clear limits, DACA risks becoming a total debacle, and Trump risks alienating his supporters.

Here are three deal-breakers he should lay out, and soon:

 

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source: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/13/3-daca-deal-breakers-trump-can-avoid-getting-rolled/

  • Dasgeiss

    We have been under Invasion by these foreign countries for decades and it has been successful because we allowed it to be called immigration. 11 million people sneaking across our border is not immigration, it is in fact an invasion…peaceful compared to a combatant invasion but still an invasion. DACA is just another example of an invasion. These countries have declared an act of war against our country via invasion. When will we wake up……when it is too late, of course! So nice for our descendants! NOT!

  • Raquel Salientes

    I don’t doubt that Trump has something up his sleeve. By appearing to give the Dems the upperhand, he will no doubt drive a bargain that will make DACA harder to implement and return the upperhand to Trump, not necessarily the Republicans, the do-nothings.

  • Terry Butts

    Once again ALLOWING SOMETHING to expire instead of extending it is not CANCELING it.

    “President Trump is partly to blame for this state of affairs,
    after giving up much of his early negotiating leverage by suggesting
    that Congress’s job would be to “legalize” DACA.”

    He did not suggest they LEGALIZE DACA he said they were supposed to find a CONSTITUTIONAL solution to the problem during the time DACA was active before its BUILT IN expiration date that he would not EXTEND it.

    Instead of doing their job in the TIME they were given by the creation of DACA they EXPECTED the president to just EXTEND DACA as if it was the solution despite the CONSTITUTION stating it is OUTSIDE the presidents authority to SET ASIDE an EXISTING LAW congress has already made that addressed the issue of imigration.

    Remember the DEMOCRATS are the ones that screamed it was unconstitutional for Trump to do ANYTHING concerning immigration when he revoked obama’s policy of bypassing the normal legal process of verifying they were not terrorists for certain “REFUGEES”.

  • GomeznSA

    daca was, is and always will be UNCONSTITIONAL – period. barry did not have the authority to enact it.
    While we can feel compassion and sympathy for the dreamers, they are STILL here illegally. Can reasonable people come up with some system by which a legal remedy can be found for them? Sure, but no form of amnesty is the answer. Well, of course it could be if we no longer desire to be a Republic that is based on the rule of law……….

  • Tannyr

    I’m honestly disappointed this is the focus of Trump’s action. DACA just allows people who committed no crime to not be treated as criminals. Children cannot choose to illegally immigrate into a country. Their parents chose that, so it seems not only unfair but immoral to treat them as criminals for something they had no choice in. If Jesus asked me to justify why I would end DACA, I wouldn’t have a righteous or justifiable answer. DACA can’t encourage more illegal immigration. People eligible had to be here since 2007. Illegal immigration did increase the year Obama made DACA, but it started increasing before the policy was ever publicized or put in place. Since DACA recipients commit crimes at rate much smaller than US born citizens, the idea that removing DACA is for safety is just disingenuous.

    • patriotgirl1

      And what’s next? They’re getting special this and that, while CITIZENS are left holding the bag. ENOUGH…Americans have had ENOUGH!

      • Tannyr

        Umm I’m guessing you don’t know what DACA is by your response. They don’t get anything special. They’re basically just allowed to stay and work in the US (if they meet several requirements including a background check and minimum education level). According to the National Academy of Sciences (NAS), first-generation immigrants who enter the United States as children (including all DACA recipients) pay, on average, more in taxes over their lifetimes than they receive in benefits (because they’re not eligible for many benefits without citizenship). DACA recipients also have to pay for the fees themselves (as in they are paying in money to even be considered for the status). We get more money from them than they cost, so they aren’t burdening taxpayers. As far as your statement about Americans having enough, polls show that the majority of Americans support DACA.

        • patriotgirl1

          Yes…sure. 👎👎👎👎👎👊👊👊They support it in a left wing area.

          • Tannyr

            They don’t get any money from you…..As I said, they don’t qualify for many benefits (including things like welfare), and they pay more in taxes than they get back in any benefits unlike most Americans. So, you’ve lost on that point. Most illegal immigrants (brought over as children or not) don’t qualify for green cards (which you need before you can apply for citizenship). For those who do qualify, the waits can be decades.

          • teachersaide

            U really need to catch up with REALITY! CBO Reports, LA Times news articles of last 3-4 yrs, LA County Dept of Social Welfare Budget on line, ALL DOCUMENT that illegal aliens are COLLECTING WELFARE! BHO’s illegal alien aunt in Boston was getting SNAP & Subsidized housing as an illegal alien, per Boston Globe! U should read her comments on OUR “Largess”! 51% of ALL illegal aliens are getting some form of WELFARE &/or FREE healthcare, including Organ Transplants! Per PEW, 1/3 of ALL illegal aliens are PAYING NO income, social security, or Medicare taxes! Plus, WE get to PAY for 13 YEARS of education, PLUS Head Start &/or Preschool because they do NOT know any English; FREE or low cost meals at school (Br, Lu, & in some places Dinner!); ALL the extra expenses to staff schools with ESL/ELL teachers & aides; etc. Check out Ana Puente who has had 4 LIVER transplants, at UCLA courtesy of American tax payers……CBO Reports document that ILLEGAL ALIENS are collecting MORE benefits, than would be covered by ANY & ALL taxes paid! AS to a wait for Decades to become a citizen? As far as I’m concerned, NO ILLEGAL ALIEN should ever become a citizen- Best they can get is Legal resident! People NEED to STOP breaking our laws, & expecting to get REWARDED for same!

          • Tannyr

            Guys……if you’re going to reply, could you try making the comments relevant ? I talk about DACA participants (who are documented as legal residents) and those eligible/ trying to get the status, and you talk about illegal immigrants as a whole. If this was a conversation about let’s say Japanese food, y’all would be telling me how horrible Chinese and Taiwanese food is……

          • teachersaide

            They are NOT “legal residents”. They are “DEFERRED ACTION on CHILDHOOD ARRIVALS”. They have temporary work papers.

          • Tannyr

            For the 4th time, I’m talking specifically about those eligible for DACA. This makes most of your comment irrelevant to the conversation as DACA is a program for immigrants brought here as children to apply for Legal Residency. As in, they pay fees to apply and renew, and they pay taxes because they are not working illegally under the table. Estimated net fiscal gains from immigrants like those eligible for DACA exceeds $150,000 per individual. I really hope I don’t have to explain net fiscal gains.

            Again, your logic is flawed. You’re arguing that someone who was brought here as a child broke our laws (when they had no choice in the matter) and are getting “rewarded”……by becoming documented and taxed without eligibility to federal student aid, Medicare, food stamps, etc. Illegal immigrants who do manage to get those benefits are doing so by shady means since they are undocumented. Documented legal residents like DACA recipients are documented and monitored unlike their ineligible counterparts.

          • teachersaide

            51% of ALL illegal aliens (it does not specify if those in study if illegal aliens were DACA or NOT) are receiving some form of WELFARE &/or FREE healthcare. Since 25% of ALL illegal aliens in this country, are residing in CA, NOT seeing any likelihood that CA would release Documents that actually SHOW that those covered by DACA have REC’D Medicaid, SNAP, WIC, TANF, subsidized housing, etc. CA has NOT released the numbers of abortions they perform for over 5 years- WHY should I believe that they would release information that they perceive would be “detrimental”, but TRUE, INFO about illegal aliens?

          • Tannyr

            Well, whether it includes DACA or not would be rather important detail, but limitations on data are limitations we can’t control sadly. Well, since the sanctuary city and state thing has been a recent development with Trump coming into office and all, we can just rely on previous years’s data. No biggy.

          • teachersaide

            DACA, CA, WIC, TANF, SNAP, etc are all accepted abbreviations for Gov’t programs &/or state abbreviations…. However, it’s telling that HOW I write my information is of more import, than whether or not what I write is factual. Gotta be a LIBERAL! Probably in CA.

          • John Flynn

            whatever you opine, pls don’t be so ignorant as to suggest taxes are NOT my $$$ and that their (DACA’s) funds come from elsewhere…the USA is NOT a welfare-state. Let’s ENFORCE Ike’s Wetback (word used on the Bill, itself) and the 1952 McCarron Act. “o” completely side-stepped these laws when making DACA an EO

          • Tannyr

            No one suggested that your taxes, my taxes, anyone’s taxes, etc. are not our money, so I don’t know where you get that…….unless you’re seriously confused by my statement about DACA participants paying their filing fees…What do you think DACA is? It’s basically just a program that allows immigrants brought here illegally as children to apply for legal residency and work here legally (thereby ensuring they pay taxes). The funds for DACA come from the fees that people applying to be considered for the status pay.

          • teachersaide

            THEY are finally paying FEES? Glory, Hallelujah! Apparently FEES were NOT pay by the “immigrant” illegal aliens of the LAST 7 AMNESTIES!

          • patriotgirl1

            Taxes??????😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂They don’t pay taxes.

          • Tannyr

            Sigh* sweetheart, if your IQ doesn’t reach triple digits (or if you’re not at least 18……all those emojis), please just stay off adult discussion boards. Having to explain basic concepts to you is getting tiresome. If you can’t debate, then don’t. For example, your reply was either an attempt at a straw man or an indication of ignorance of how the tax system and DACA program works. You do realize that those who are in DACA automatically have taxes taken out of their paychecks correct?

          • Tannyr

            No…..over 70% of all Americans support DACA.

          • John Flynn

            Name your poll that’s being cited, who and where were the citizens that were polled?

          • Tannyr

            POLITICO/ Morning Consult Poll.

            http://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000015e-784f-dad5-a77f-7cef00960000

            You should find answers to all your questions in the methodology in this link.

          • patriotgirl1

            So then 70% of people don’t support the Constitution. That’s very heartwarming to say the least.

          • Tannyr

            You realize DACA is a program where people brought here as children apply to become legal residents right ? It’s nothing against the Constitution.

          • patriotgirl1

            What Obama did was unconstitutional…he stepped over Congress. Our system was not set up to do that. Therefore the entire DACA is obsolete.

          • Tannyr

            I like that you’re trying to get a new angle on this debate, but he didn’t step over Congress. Congress had no interest in dealing with that problem at the time and still haven’t dealt with it. While there are many things Obama did wrong (i.e. Obamacare), I can’t really see how this case was a problem. The problem needed to be dealt with at least temporarily until Congress made a law regarding it, so he dealt with it.

          • teachersaide

            Obama said that doing DACA, as an executive order, was in violation of the LAW-> Then, he did it. KNOW WHY? Because the Liar in Chief had already LIED to the illegal alien community, when he said that he’d do CIR in the First YEAR in office (When he was campaigning!). NEVER happened. SO he did DACA, so he’d continue to get the Latino vote, hoping they’d ignore his LIES & failure to comply with HIS promise! Apparently, it worked.

          • patriotgirl1

            And they’ve had PLENTY of time to apply. They’re adults and have been for quite awhile. Meanwhile, si many are at the gate waiting to get into this country, with skills, money, a livlihood and are not a drain on America. Sorry…they can go to their country of origin and make THAT better.

          • Tannyr

            They did apply……That’s why they’re DACA recipients…..because they applied and were approved. DACA recipients have higher rates of employment, higher education enrollment, military service than Americans…..They also have lower rates of crime than Americans being that even being arrested (not convicted) gets you booted from DACA.

          • teachersaide

            They do NOT have HIGHER military service rates than Americans! There are 800,000 DACA recipients; Less than 900 are in military- That’s about 0.1%! NOT impressed!

          • Tannyr

            Oh my bad, I thought you said 1% (American rate is 0.4%). Granted, that still means the difference in rate of military service is pretty small, especially considering their parents have little to no patriotism for all we know.

          • teachersaide

            FOUR times more often is NOT “pretty small”!

          • teachersaide

            AS far as I’ve heard, DACA does NOT give citizenship to any of it’s recipients. It DELAYS deportation & gives them papers to be able to get a job. That’s it! IT was an illegal order, as Obama said numerous times, before he did it.

          • Tannyr

            Sigh* I never said it gives them citizenship. Do you know what it’s called when someone is legally allowed to reside and work in the country for a temporary amount of time (unless they keep applying and getting approved each time)? It’s called legal residency…..hence why I said they apply to be legal residents.

        • patriotgirl1

          I support NO ILLEGALS IN AMERICA…period. These “children” have had how many years to become citizens????????

        • patriotgirl1

          I get NOTHING from them or any illegal. American tax payers foot their bills over and over and over…

          • teachersaide

            AMEN!

        • teachersaide

          The “GANG of 8” CIR Bill, that was defeated in the HOUSE, GAVE LOTS to illegal aliens, including DACA! #1, WE would get to PAY for college for “DREAMers” with loans meant for citizens. #2, Legal immigration would INCREASE to 2 MILLION per yr, no matter what. #3, NO deportation of criminals in MOST cases. #4, WE would get to Bring Over HERE another 20-40 MILLION ALIENS, whose “sole claim to fame”, is that they are Related to current group in USA! #5, PAGES & PAGES of HOW illegal aliens could “get legal” WITHOUT PAYING ANY BACK TAXES, FINES, OR FEES! Thanks, but NO THANKS! Screw that plan, and the “Horse” it rode in on. THAT is when I changed my views on McCain & Rubio, et al!

          • Tannyr

            So far none of what you said is relevant to my comment. You said a bill that was defeated in the house would have laid out all those actions and policies. I’m talking about the DACA policy that was in place until just recently, where pretty much nothing you mentioned is included.

          • teachersaide

            Yes, DACA “recipients” received NONE of what was proposed by “Gang of 8”. #1, They DID receive FREE EDUCATION, grades K-12, plus many also got Head Start &/or Preschool, because they did NOT speak English. (At a cost of $10-12,000 PER Yr, PER child!)- Don’t forget costs of ESL/ELL teachers/aides & busing. #2, They DID receive FREE or reduced cost meals at school (Br, Lu, & in some places Dinner!). #3, They DID receive FREE healthcare if they showed up at ANY USA hospital, ER, or Clinic, Including FREE Organ Transplants & dialysis. #4, They DID receive WELFARE benefits (SNAP, WIC, TANF, subsidized housing, etc), because this is DOCUMENTED in CBO Reports, LA County Dept of Social Welfare Benefits Budget on line, & LA times news articles for at least the LAST 3-4 years!

          • Tannyr

            Do you have any data showing people who are now DACA recipients getting any of what you said as children (besides free public schooling obviously). Granted, since DACA recipients pay taxes as adults and are ineligible for most American benefits, you could say they’re paying back for their schooling, which seems like a great thing to me. You’re just listing off stuff for illegal immigrants as a whole though. If you have data specifically on DACA recipients, I’d like to see it. Granted, it still kinda amuses me that you are so annoyed with DACA recipients for potentially receiving benefits that they had no say in. Using American benefits illegally would obviously be the fault of their parents.

          • teachersaide

            DACA recipient Ana Puente has received 4 LIVER transplant at UCLA (Cost estimated at $400,000 total, NOT counting immunosuppressive drugs or follow up), starting when she was a Baby- ALL on the tax payers DIME! SHE is NOT the only one! I’ve seen Plenty of ILLEGAL ALIEN children in local school system getting FREE or reduced cost meals at school- KNOW HOW U can tell? In state where I reside, Citizen students who are getting this same benefit get food sent home to cover the weekend! Therefore, ILLEGAL ALIEN students get NO food sent home for weekend. Over HALF of the Preschool students in last 2 yrs I worked, are ILLEGAL ALIENS, with VAST Majority being Latino….. U must have missed the “actions” of DACA recipients Yesterday, when they SHOUTED DOWN Rep Nancy Pelosi, because she was ONLY going to be working on a DACA replacement! THEY’RE DEMANDING AMNESTY for all “11 Million”! Well, SCREW them, SCREW their illegal alien parents/family, & SCREW ALL those who believe that hard working American Tax Payers should be supporting illegal aliens, in the “Lifestyle in which they’d like to become accustomed”, & HAVE become accustomed! NEVER have been in favor of REWARDING people who break out laws.

          • Tannyr

            I looked up the story you mentioned. I couldn’t find any mentioning of her being a DACA recipient. As far as us paying for her medical care, only Californians are paying for it as the program that pays for her medical care is state run and funded. This means federal government can’t do anything about it. If Californians want that program ended, they’re gonna have to fight to get it out (supposing enough people want it out).

            As for the protestors, their demands should obviously be ignored due to their behavior and unrealistic demands. However, there was no confirmation if they were DACA recipients or not. They never claimed to be DACA, and they were not identified as DACA recipients. All we know is that they said they are “undocumented youth. “

          • teachersaide

            #1, I worked for the Medicare State Fiscal Intermediary for 6 YEARS! Medicare covers organ transplants- YOU know for a FACT, that NO Federal dollars were used to give Ana Puentes 4 Liver transplants? They also Cover Anti-rejection drugs, follow up care like liver biopsies, etc. #2, PLUS, in case U missed the News, Organs for transplantation are in SHORT SUPPLY!! U can’t go to “Albertsons” & pick one up. THOUSANDS of people DIE every year, waiting for a transplant that never happens, & WE are giving them to ILLEGAL ALIENS? 4 Of them to ONE very “entitled” illegal alien? #3, Ms Puentes got her 4’th transplant, AFTER UCLA was “reassured” that SHE was NOT going to be subject to Deportation. (That occurred after she had “aged out of their program”, and she had a PUBLIC “YOU have to take care of me Tantrum”!) #4, U really think that the Liberal NEWS MEDIA would actually inform the public that those “spoiled brats”, AKA “protesters”, Were DACA recipients, if it made DACA look “bad”?

          • Tannyr

            The story about her specifically said it was California programs that covered her medical expenses…..As in, this was not a Medicare case. The loopholes that allowed her to get so much money in medical treatment are problems in California’s programs……and California is a state that has chosen to be a sanctuary state. So, they apparently want to spend their money in these ways. If you don’t live in California, it’s not affecting you, which is great news. They didn’t waste your money.

            You realize liberal news media isn’t the only type of news media that reporter on the incident ? Also, they protestors themselves didn’t say they were DACA.

          • teachersaide

            Some HOW, U totally ignored the ISSUE of organ transplants, into illegal aliens, of organs that are in SHORT SUPPLY! WE don’t have enough for AMERICAN citizens! WE waste 4 livers on Ana Puente, & that’s NOT “newsworthy”? Plus, SHE is NOT the only one! And, don’t tell me that UCLA does NOT get federal money in grants, studies, etc. -> unless U have the info to document that for a fact.

        • John Flynn

          WHAT polls show the majority of taxpayers support DACA, This stat is used over and over again but i’ve yet to see a poll cited that says anything close to that!

    • teachersaide

      DO they really commit crimes at a lower rate, OR is the LIBERAL MSM accurately reporting crime statistics? Sure are a lot of MS-13 gang bangers in this country. NO citizenship EVER for “DREAMers”, because that will allow them to bring over here MORE of their family members legally! THAT is called REWARDING people for breaking OUR laws!….. Either WE are a “Nation of Laws”, or we aren’t. AND, IF we aren’t, the LEFT seriously needs to SHUT UP about MORE gun control. Because, IF WE are NOT a “Nation of Laws”, EVERY American citizen who is NOT a convicted felon &/or severely mentally ill, should be “carrying” 24/7, for self protection.

      • Tannyr

        You realize that crime statistics aren’t compiled by political organizations right? Crime reports are filled out by our police departments and courts. Government agencies like the FBI and National Institute of Justice compile the statistics.

        As far as rewarding people for breaking our laws, I didn’t mention anything about the DREAM Act.

        • teachersaide

          #1, Newspapers, TV, radio, Magazines DECIDE which stories they will REPORT! There was an African “refugee” in Aberdeen, SD area CONVICTED last DEC for attempting to molest a severely disabled woman. This was NOT reported in news(Local newspaper had NO good reason why their reporter was NOT in the courtroom!), and only discovered because neighbor was talking to neighbor- ACT for America reported on it. I still have NOT been able to find out what the Sentence was. ……#2, Those Media reporters in sanctuary cities are giving out data on crimes committed by illegal aliens? ‘Cause they will NOT report them to ICE, DHS, et al. … #3, I’ve heard many comments from victims of illegal alien crimes, especially in sanctuary cities”, that illegal alien “crime” is almost ALWAYS down-graded to a misdemeanor, instead of deportation/prosecution of a FELONY!…. #4, I’ve seen this in my local area, when a young man was murdered by an illegal alien. Local media barely reported it, and there was ZIP follow up.

          • Tannyr

            Again, not relevant to my statements about DACA (in order to be in DACA, you have to have a clean background check). I’m talking specifically about those eligible for DACA….not all illegal immigrants. I would think this is well known, but crime reports and statistics don’t come from newspapers, tv stations, etc. Those are news stations. They report on things they think are relevant and will get views based on their audiences. Whether or not it’s reported by news stations, a crime is reported by victims to police who then fill out the official reports that are heard in court. These official reports are also what justice agencies use to compile and report statistics on crime rates. What you are rambling about is called anecdotal evidence, which should not be solely relied upon for knowledge and understanding of any facet of life.

          • teachersaide

            I understand what U are saying. However, I just don’t have the TRUST in the “systems” on reporting of Crimes to federal agencies, when Sanctuary cities, counties, states refuse to release some of that same INFO to ICE, DHS, et al. And, those same agencies that are supposed to have ALL the stats on crime in USA- I haven’t heard that they are paying any attention to whether or not the criminals are illegal aliens. I also haven’t heard that they are making any notation (or paying any attention) on whether or not the criminals plea bargain down to misdemeanors. They may- I don’t know. I have NOT seen any Federal “news items” on the subject.

          • Tannyr

            I just did a quick google search and found federal reports where they go into the stats of crimes committed specifically by illegal and legal immigrants. Sanctuary cities and states are refusing to send that info now in order to protect the illegal immigrants. However, this is only a recent development. The federal agencies have crime statistics going back decades, and reports have been done specifically to look into crime rates of illegal aliens. Illegal aliens in general can be said to commit crimes at higher rates than Americans. This does not apply to those eligible for DACA because even being arrested (not convicted) can get you booted out of the program. As far as illegal immigrants getting lower convictions or getting off easy, prosecutors generally don’t charge illegal immigrants if ICE and related agencies are planning to deport them.

          • teachersaide

            “As far as illegal immigrants getting lower convictions or getting off
            easy, prosecutors generally don’t charge illegal immigrants if ICE and
            related agencies are planning to deport them.”…. THIS is NOT what has been occurring in LA, SF, Baltimore, Sacramento, NYC, Chicago, Denver, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Newark, Seattle, DC, Boston, Minneapolis/St. Paul, et al! THEY SHIELD criminal illegal aliens from ANY FEDERAL notice, so Feds will NOT DEPORT them! 90% of ALL criminal prosecution is “settled” with “Plea Bargains”- Of course ILLEGAL ALIENS are getting off easy!

          • Tannyr

            Well, while not deporting illegal immigrants caught committing crimes is a huge problem, the rate of plea bargains you stated isn’t surprising. Federal cases for American citizens end in plea bargains 97% of the time with state cases having similar stats. With that in mind, it appears that illegal immigrants get plea bargains at a lower rate than Americans, meaning illegal aliens aren’t getting off easy comparatively. Actually, hearing the illegal immigrant plea bargain rate is lower than American citizens’ is good news. It means they aren’t getting off easy, at least comparatively. I also think you misunderstand the purpose of a plea bargain. It isn’t introduced to help the defendant in a case. It is introduced in order to expedite the judicial process more or less. With our current back log in the courts, this is sadly not surprising.

        • John Flynn

          are you the mouthpiece for MS13’s dept of PR?????

          • Tannyr

            A simple google search shows that MS13 is a rather barbaric gang known for violence, destruction, and complete disregard for the law…….You must be being sarcastic when asking if that kind of group has a PR department…..

          • John Flynn

            give yourself a round of applause!

          • Tannyr

            Do you have an actual complaint or disagreement about any of my points, or are you gonna keep going on straw men ? This is a legitamite question since I think you are the only one on here who has asked me a truly relevant and important question (i.e. Source of the poll).

    • Tannyr

      I’m just wondering if anyone here has actual complaints about allowing people who are innocent of any crime (including coming here illegally since they were children at the time) applying to a status that allows them to legally work and stay here? They’re under a status they can lose at any time despite paying the US taxes, fees, and getting no American citizen benefits. They serve in our military. They own and run businesses. They’ve grown up in America. Despite being brought here illegally without any control on their part, they are risking being deported to become legal, which is what we want (legal….following the law, etc.).

      • teachersaide

        My Lord, U are so far behind the times, it’s NOT funny! WE are ALL PAYING for illegal aliens EDUCATION! $10,-12,000 PER Yr, Per Child, K-12! PLUS Head Start/preschool d/t lack of ENGLISH language skills, though their parents have been here “too long”, to deport! AS to the “serving in the military”, there are about 800,000 “DREAMers”, and about 900 are in the Military! THAT Is Less than 1%! WE are also PAYING for their HEALTHCARE! ILLEGAL ALIENS can & do Collect SNAP, WIC, TANF, subsidized housing, & any of the over 60 other WELFARE programs in the USA! YOU MISSED the Headline NEWS, when Trump was Elected, that over 1 MILLION illegal aliens Dropped Off the SNAP rolls, because they were afraid that they could be found more easily for deportation! MY major complaint with “DREAMers” is that they apparently Believe that since they didn’t bring themselves here illegally, that it shouldn’t “count”! That Idea that it shouldn’t “Count”, is reflected in their expectation that “Of course”, if they’re made legal, their ILLEGAL alien parents, aunts/uncles, cousins, grandparents, siblings, et al SHOULD be allowed to stay & become citizens TOO! “Sick & tired” of this country REWARDING criminals for breaking OUR LAWS!

        • Tannyr

          Again……..I’m talking about DACA eligible people for the most part. When I say they pay on average in their lifetimes more in taxes than what they get in benefits, that includes schooling. I’m not behind the times…..you’re just apparently on the wrong comment thread……I haven’t even talked about the DREAM Act. Is it really this hard to stay on topic, people? It seems that it doesn’t matter if I’m talking to liberals or conservatives, there are people with an agenda in mind regardless of what the focus of the conversation actually is. It’s like y’all have blinders on…..

          By the way, by your logic implications, if your parents did drugs in the house while you were there as a child (and got busted for it), you’d be guilty by association.

          • teachersaide

            NO, I’m just “sick & tired” of having ONE set of LAWS for citizens, & YOU by God had better adhere to them, AND ONE set of LAWS for illegal aliens!

  • cathylovesyou

    Daca was illegal O took it upon himself to enforce in his further attempts to help destroy America. Cancel it we have had enough of paying for criminals in our towns and villages, committing horrible crimes, running down houses creating an unsafe society. Police count up, welfare up, taking our own lazy Citizens jobs, is anybody home.

  • paul

    NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO TO CHICKEN SH*T YOU WILL STILL WIND UP WITH CHICKEN SH*T.

  • jim jones

    Trump had NO problem pulling out of the Paris accord, something that was a benefit to America and the world, dumping DACA should be a snap, keep the promise, deport ALL illegal wet backs!

  • John Flynn

    an 18 yo killed a SF resident recently right there in the “sanctuary city”. Was the 18 yo a “Dreamer”, i wonder? Was the victim a “Dreamers”, too? No mention was made of this incident by our friends at MSM. Buy they, the “Dreamers” don’t commit violence, do they? Gov of “Sanctuary State”, CA, is mum on this!

    • Jmanjo

      That’s because the goverrnor of California is a supreme jackass with no brains. That has been proven time again and Californians keep electing that boob! The whole state has gone looney! No grades for passing kids out of high school. Companies not allowed to verify job applicants resumes, illegals can vote, restrictions on firearms to protect yourself, no media mention of illegals crimes. Just how dang dumb can one state be. No place for a vacation that’s for sure, too dangerous!