Is Socialism The Future Of Democrats?

Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-IL) responded to New York Democratic congressional hopeful Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s primary victory recently.

CNN’s Jake Tapper asked is a socialist platform was going to become to future of the Democratic party.

Partial transcript as follows:

TAPPER: There were obviously a lot of shockwaves in the Democratic Party Tuesday night, when 28-year-old Democratic socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez defeated the fourth-ranking Democrat in the House, Joe Crowley, has a platform of Medicare for all, federal jobs guarantee, free college tuition.

Is this the future of the Democratic Party?

DUCKWORTH: I think it’s the future of the party in the Bronx, where she is.

I think that we, as legislators, need to listen to our constituency and get out there. I think what she did was, she did the hard work. She pounded the pavement, and she was out there talking to every one of her constituents. And I think that was the difference.

She turned out her voters and reflected the needs of her district.

TAPPER: Are you concerned at all that your party is going too far to the left to either win in the midterms or win back the White House?

DUCKWORTH: Well, I think that you can’t win the White House without the Midwest. And I don’t think that you can go too far to the left and still win the Midwest.

Coming from a Midwestern state, I think you need to be able to talk to the Industrial Midwest. You need to listen to the people there in order to win an election nationwide.

  • Sue

    Socialism is the death of the Democrat party. Any country that adopts it self-destructs. Why would any Americans want the US to become Venezuela? No party that promotes socialism can survive.

    • Aline

      because they are STUPID!

  • Aline

    A future ? With another lying sack of cortez crap? Your retarded stupid, evil party IS ON THE WAY OUT!!
    And I can’t wait to see heads roll!

  • bill

    the demorats turned to socialism a long time ago back in the 60,s

  • Dennis B Anderson

    Europeans left for americas to get away from these idiologys. It appears people of brown skin brought that with them and want to smother us once again with facism.
    Lets face it they have rushed our borders for all the free stuff. Hey Trump its time to shut it down. Let immigrants know no more food stamps no nothing ! Watch them back the donkey up. Stop the invassion now

    • Howard Kirshenbaum

      You have been too deep in your echo chamber. Illegals don’t get free stuff. They don’t get food stamps. They don’t get welfare. If they are working legally, they pay in to Social Security and Medicare but they get no benefit from it. Most of the “brown skins” as you call them work just as hard as you do at jobs you wouldn’t think of doing but have to be done.

      Europeans left for the Americas to get away, not from a socialist ideology but to get away from religious persecution and being the wrong people. The new batch actually is running from violence in their native countries and trying to get the same thing here that your ancestors were looking for, safety and a better life for their kids and grandkids than they had.

      And no one with any knowledge of situation says it’s an invasion. No more coming over than there ever was. And if you are serious about the immigrant situation, then take care of all the 60% of illegals that come here legally and overstay their visas. But, why would you? They are Asians and Eastern Europeans, not “brown skins”.

      • Patriot2theCore

        You Liberals are so quick to say illegal immigrants don’t get food stamps or any other type of welfare; How do you know? How are you so certain? Europeans left for America to get away from Both of those things. Liberals just don’t get it; there is absolutely nothing wrong with people wanting to come to America to escape violence and upheaval in their home countries; but its not unreasonable for us to require people to become US citizens and expect a degree of assimilation. One of the Great things about America is unlike a lot of other countries America is made up of many nations coming together to form one Nation United and Strong.

        • Kenny Albert

          Just a lie they tell trying to get us to keep illegals in the country. They hope to get a hundred million illegals and if they ever get the power to give them amnesty and citizenship. Permanent democrat ” communist” control.

        • Howard Kirshenbaum

          If they are getting welfare, they are committing fraud. By law the government should know and not give them anything. Considering most illegals don’t cross the border illegally, let’s go after the real problem, the visa overstayers. Why doesn’t congress come up with a real fix to the whole problem. Trump said it was so simple, just do it. Truth is they don’t come for the welfare.

          As a tax practitioner for over 50 years, I had many Hispanic clients that came over and never really assimilated. I had Polish clients and Italian clients with the same MO. But their kids sure did. People come over and stick with their own kind for that first generation but the kids mingle with kids of all ilk in public school, learn English and assimilate very well. Most have no accent at all and speak multiple languages which most Americans don’t. And I agree completely with your last sentence. Nice having a civil discourse with someone on this channel. Thanks.

          By the way, I may be a social liberal but I am a fiscal conservative. What Trump is doing on the border is not fiscally conservative. I view it as just vindictive.

      • Dennis B Anderson

        Where you from Dorthy? Its not Seattle, Washington, Portland, Oregon, or Compton, California thats for sure. Why dont you put your arms around them and give them a sloppy wet kiss.I stepped on a nail soon after I had to go to the emergency room. I lost my plan and my doctor and called the community hospital the night before. I let them know I was coming the following morning at 7am.
        I had a entire waiting room full of mexicans that were ahead of me.
        What would have normally taken maybe 1 1/2 hours took the whole god damned day.It ended up costing me $340.00 where these rat bastards didnt pay a dime. You need to get out more often Pops.
        What do you think idiology is its a beleif, a way of life or a doctrine.
        people live by. What do you think the quaran is. If youre not here legally get out before you get bodily thrown out. If it will make you feel any better why dont you give them your SSI check. Ive got no respect for people who wont stand up for themselves. They need to go back to where ever it is they came from. All 16 million of them and fight ! They have an army.

        • Howard Kirshenbaum

          You sound so forlorn. You poor thing. That’s what happens when you live in Podunk, Whateverstate. Had the same experience with my son getting stung by a bee and his throat started to close up while on vacation. Not all the way, thankfully. Went to the local clinic in some town in West Virginia and got a number. Because it wasn’t yet an emergency, we sat there for 5 hours and were still waiting when things relaxed and he was completely OK. So we left. No Hispanics, just poor white folks. So what’s your point.

          So how do you know they didn’t pay a dime? Did you ask each one of them? Did you talk to the clinic to find out? Or are you guessing because they were Mexicans and poor little you had to wait to get taken. Sounds like your “privilege” got stepped on.

          And when did this happen? Why, if you could have had insurance, didn’t you have insurance? How did you lose it? You don’t lose Obamacare.

          • Dennis B Anderson

            I was roller skating when I was 2 My grand father taught me to tie my shoes when I was 3. I rode my first bike when I was 4. Climbed up on my uncles john deere tractor at age 4 and drove it off. They were illegals they work the fish plants.
            My doctor and his Vietnam wife quit the family practice because of Obama Care. 1 x 1 = what? I happen to be an american citizen why should I have to wait. I call my bank and the first thing I hear is a recording in spanish on what to do? If you havent noticed dumb ass you are the minority.
            Sceptics were running around naked during the fall of Rome. There banner was they didnt beleive in anything.
            Now they wear pussy hats. Hey have a great 4 th of july?
            Are you more in tune with Cinco de Mayo ??

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            You sound so talented. We should all be so impressed. Living in the big city, we didn’t have a tractor to drive.

            You doctor quit the family practice because of Obamacare. Funny but I lost one of my doctors well before Obamacare because the insurance companies wouldn’t pay him what he thought he should be getting. Most of those doctors were near or past normal retirement. How old was yours?

            I don’t know what bank you use but mine is in English first and then in Spanish telling a large minority that they can accommodate their language and it also tells the bank who to transfer the call to. Don’t make it so terrible. Their kids will probably speak the language as well as you do.

            And why do you have to wait? Because you aren’t special when it comes to the health of a person. That thinking is one of the reasons for the problems in this country. And yes, I am having a great Fourth of July.

            By the way, when is cinco de mayo? lol

          • Dennis B Anderson

            I left home at the age of 15 1/2 through my bedroom window blamed for something I didnt do. With the help of my councelor I took all of my semester finals and passed. Went to night college and studied business administration. Went back to my high school like Fonzie did to pick up my mock deploma just for the fun of it. The girls asked me where I had been, and I seen no reason to reveal myself. A hand shake instead of a kiss what for I was sleeping with college age women.

            Bought my first home at age 18 with a lease / owner no money down contract. I filled it with college age renters while working for Naval Air Missile Command. I got lucky the city wanted to complete 9th st, and they had to go through my back yard to complete this task !. It paid off my 4 bedroom victorian home with money to spare.
            My aunt & uncle raised me the first 2 years of my life on a cattle ranch in Oberlin, Kansas. A smart guy like you would surmize my uncle sold his last horse at a spavined
            auction block. He put a down payment on a tractor. Some people work for a living that calls for more than just being a bull shit artist. You will be dead and gone when english
            becomes this countrys second language its starting. You need to be able to speak spanish in southern california to hold down a crap job. Ill tell you when Cinco de Mayo is. Count to 10 in spanish mutt head and the number will

            hit you half way through. For the rest of it you look it up
            for being so condesending. You probably live with 20 people in a condominium setting. On the other hand I own dios homes thats 1/2 of 20 in spanish! I said own, and I make $116,000.00 a year setting on my ass. I have alot of frenemies that chose to play all there lives that truly hate me. Its not anything that I have done to them? Its what I chose to do for myself. Ill leave you to wonder just how much wealth I have aquired in my life time.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            So you did well. So did I. And it wasn’t condescending, I told you it was a joke.
            I got married young and kids quickly. My grandchildren are no longer teenagers and one is married and two are engaged. 8 in all.
            Did college and worked full time at the same time to support the family. I don’t have 10 houses as I don’t want to be a landlord. Have more than enough wealth earned from 50 years of working to keep our family running for at least a few generations. I made way more than you did last year sitting on my ass.

            ” You need to be able to speak spanish in southern california to hold down a crap job.” Well you need to speak English to get the good paying jobs. And if you speak both you have a good chance at a really good job that works with both languages.

            So what’s your point? I don’t really get where you are going with this.

          • Dennis B Anderson

            I can understand waiting on the other side of the border while its people are treated first, but not here. None of them spoke english nor was there any money involved. I get the idea that you think we should have open borders with no consequences. It doesnt take a brainiac to figure out why packages are getting smaller, and prices are going up. You say you made more money than I did last year that was alot of bull or you would have said how?
            It 1609 at a place named James Town around New England on the east coast. There was only one vote that seperated the final decision of speaking english, or german. Our countrys national language is english, not spanish ? Why dont you go to Europe and see what the job market does for you?
            I know it ends in nothing if you cant speak the language. Its there country, and you are the interloper. I beleive in america & americans first on our home grounds. Have you ever traveled around the world? They dont much care for americans, but they will take your money Youre old enough for this? Have you ever invited anyone to your private fishing hole, and later run out of it because of that invitation? You can feed & house the bulk of the democratic party ! Heres one for you ! How would you like to start all over again the way things are? The best break immigrants ever got was prohibition.

            Ill keep my money GOD bless america

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            Boy you are all over the place. Very disjointed.
            You can understand waiting on the other side of the border but not here. That’s because you don’t look at people as people but as them and us. You feel that when it comes to a person’s health, you are more important than someone who might not speak the language very well.

            No, I am not for open borders. That just lets in criminals along with those seeking a better life. I don’t want the criminals and I don’t want the drugs. We should be smart enough to know who is going to be good for our country and who isn’t. Considering that we are making less babies to fill the workforce in the future, we will always need immigrants to fill the void. With low unemployment and 6 million unfilled jobs in this country we need people from the outside to fill those positions. We have a broken system, the least of which is those crossing the borders, and have had that for decades. It needs to be fixed in a reasonable way. That’s where we probably have gross differences.

            Jamestown is not around New England, it’s in southern Virginia near Norfolk. Have been there with my kids. Basically just a historical site. Jamestown was gone by 1699 after being the capitol of the Virginia colony. It was basically British having been founded by the British who brought over German and Polish as laborers. That’s not why we speak English, however. All of the subsequent colonies consisted of English speakers yet some did speak their native languages of German, Polish and Dutch. You can be sure there were a large population speaking Dutch in New Amsterdam. It’s just that the legislatures would be speaking English just as they are now.

            I have traveled the world. The only continent I haven’t been to is Antarctica. You know what I find? Most of the people who find out you speak English want to speak English to you. Signs in most countries are also in English, even in China, which I thought odd. Most people are bilingual, learning English starting in about third grade along with their native language. That doesn’t mean they can understand technical things in English and that’s why WE accommodate others who don’t speak English as a second language. I live in Chicago. You should see the signs in some neighborhoods that tell people they can speak Polish, or Hindi, or Pakistani, or Italian, or Chinese, or Spanish. It’s great for business. So there really is nothing wrong with it. You just don’t like it at all.
            And by the way, I have been to 28 different countries on 6 continents and throughout all my travels for business or pleasure, I have yet to meet a person who hated American or weren’t friendly or didn’t try to understand what I was trying to convey in English. They may not like our politics, but they were genuinely fine with the people.

            By the way, I made my money in the stock market while sitting on my ass.

          • Dennis B Anderson

            We have 2 generations of do nothing people who went to college . They got degrees that never led them anywhere.
            You talk about bringing in more immigrants to fill jobs what for? There is an elderly couple right now that has sued there son? HE WONT LEAVE. OUR OWN PEOPLE SHOULD BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO FILL THESE JOBS. Hey I dont care what immigrants think of me or my country apparently you do. We dont need more people here how about less. Ive been all over the world myself and you are so full of sheit, we are not liked. How god damned close do you want me to get to James town? The James river runs through it go drown yourself in it. The point was this is where they voted on what language this country was going to be speaking. Heres a ball buster for you? France just closed there borders, and Germany has set up detention centers, but were so mean.
            Im all over the place I think not ! Ive been talking about immigration the entire time. Hey isnt it great that were going solar.? China has cornered that market, and you didnt see that coming? Tesla back in 1933 had a electric powered Ford that would go 90 MPH. I have a dc / ac electrical system in my motor home. Its good for 8 hr then it shuts off. Driving the motor home charges the system back up. I used to have a gas generator that I sold. We have gone way past solar power its antiquated, and takes up to much room. Theres talk about bringing the chinese over her to build solar panels. You keep buying those pork bellies it might look good to you on paper.
            When the world goes away you will wipe your asp with them. You and I are done here get lost.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            Unfortunately, you were lost a long time ago in this discussion.
            You are right about one thing though. No one likes the Ugly American. Read the book. You seem like you would fit the bill completely. Maybe that’s why you got your impression that they hate you.

          • Dennis B Anderson

            I grew up in LA California. I fought the blacks on the way into school, and the mexicans on the way out.. Do you know why that is you dumb ass? Its because the mexicans were to lazy to get up before noon. The teachers were afraid of loosing there jobs so white kids suffered because of it. I grew up during the watts riots.
            Ive been around the world Ive lived it? Ive been locked up in Tiajuana for spitting on the street. Do you remember Lionel Denny, Rodney King ? This was a later date, and you know what??? Ill bet youre the burned out freak that voted for Birney Sanders. You smack of liberalism. Now Cinderella the rabbit just went down the hole. Theres some good stuff in there you better get to it. By the way youre a minority read another book like the Fall Of Rome. Dont expect a different outcome. If there was nutrition in lies you dirt bag demorats wouldnt need the food stamps. Get lost.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            Goodness, gracious. You told me to get lost and that you were done with me yesterday afternoon. I was hoping.
            Can’t even keep a promise. Actually I didn’t think you could.

      • Kenny Albert

        They get everything but cash. Free healthcare, free housing, free schooling, food stamps and work under the table so pay no taxes. You are a liar.

        • Howard Kirshenbaum

          They get food stamps only for children born here. They get clinical healthcare and usually pay what they can, just like most white poor people. They don’t get free housing. I don’t know where you got that one, but I never heard that before. And yes, they do get free schooling, just like your kids can get. And for most all of them, their hope is that their kids will get a decent education and be productive to the society. Most immigrants come here, work hard, and hope for a better life for their kids. Same as my mom and dad did.

          • Kenny Albert

            There you go not distinguishing between legal immigrants and illegal invaders.. Illegal invaders should all be shot.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            Then shut your mouth, get your gun and go out and do your job. Shoot them all. (sarc)

          • Knowledge Transfer

            And those who pamper and appease them at the expense of others. Why don’y you volunteer to adopt all ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS [the are at least 11 million – some say up to 20 million] who broke into our country without permission. If you feel so strongly about treating ILLEGALS as if they were legal, why not broadcast your address together with taking an oath to honor the principle called SPONSORS WILL PAY. For those who moan over the the needs of ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS, such sovereign saboteurs will then sponsor ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS at the SPONSORS perpetual personal expense WITHOUT any taxpayer support also in perpetuity. If illegality is treated the same as legality, why ever behave legally?

          • Craig

            You realize your entire country was founded by “alien invaders” right ?

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Howie doesn’t need a moron like you to defend himself. You are stealing my air! What an asinine comment.

          • Craig

            Like i said, i like to laugh at your deluded responses

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Good! Keep laughing!

          • Craig

            I will 🙂

          • Knowledge Transfer

            FYSLTF!

          • Craig

            Hahahahahahaha XD

          • Craig

            Please can you post video rants on youtube ? That would be comedy gold !

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            I never said that you treat illegals as if they were legal. I said you treat illegal people the same as legal people. You treat all people the same. If they broke the law, they pay the consequence but you still treat them as human beings.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Classic misstating what wasn’t said. I said: “If illegality is treated the same as legality, why ever behave legally?

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Why don’t you adhere to SPONSORS SHOULD PAY?

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            Up to a point I would agree. In many cases that can’t go on forever. You have the idea that immigrants are a drain on the economy. Most statistics show that it isn’t true.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            What is the difference between Illegal and Legal? Why are you so obtuse?

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            Two things. The law and the way people force others into the laws that make them illegal. By that, I am referring to this current fiasco where the government drags it feet for so long that people get frustrated and do things in a way that doesn’t comport to strict legality.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            SPONSOR THEM!

  • Medic RN

    Socialism has improved nothing except the temporary power and control of its leaders; usually resulting in the murder of those they control. Their outcomes are proven disasters; People without whole vision or workable, efficient ideas; Obsurd ideation, contempt, hypocricy resulting in the murder of any alternate voice. Imploding distruction of the Liberal progressive democrats? Long, long ago.

  • Bud William

    That is obvious, that the Democrat Party is full of Socialist. You have to be kidding if you did not know that. They reward people who sit on their a**, who come here illegally and are treated better than the citizens

  • June Gagnon

    Socialism isn’t the dimwit party’s future – -it IS their “present state of mind” and has been since the 1960s!

    • Marine68

      I agree with one caveat; they have been Marxist Socialist since Woodrow Wilson. They have employed several Socialist doctrines to sway the People while degrading our teaching institutions into indoctrination centers. They have dumbed down the young of four generations until few of them even know why we celebrate the 4th of July.

  • W. Coyote

    Sen. Duckworth gives a thoughtful and rational response to the question. It will be interesting to see how many readers on this site will actually pay attention to what she said, rather than respond emotionally tp the word- “Socialism.” in the headline.

    • Rodney

      Yes, she dodged answering the question most excellently.

      • W. Coyote

        Good morning Rodney- “dodged”? Really? I thought she was quite clear. While a Democratic-socialist candidate might be representative of the Bronx, that won’t work in middle America where she lives.
        By the way, I hope you and your family get a chance to celebrate our freedoms on this July 4h.

        • Rodney

          The question was if it was the future of the party. What she said was that democrats say whatever they have to to their constituents to get elected. I didn’t see an answer to the greater question. The reason that young socialist won was because she went out there and greeted her constituents and her district is 47% Hispanic. Then there was the extremely low turn out.

          Yes, you have an awesome Independence Day as well.

  • Bob Lipori

    We are all doomed to repeat histories mistakes if we vote for these braindead Socialists!

    The promises sound good in the rhetoric but the reality of living in a Socialist country is quite shocking. For as long as history is recorded, Socialism has never worked…EVER!

    If you can find a country that makes claim that Socialism works, then it’s very likely that someone in power has rigged the numbers to make it seem like it works.

    • Howard Kirshenbaum

      Interesting that you talk about history. If you look at the last time we had a tariff war you will see that we slipped back into the Great Depression. Seems like the Trumpster doesn’t like reading history or anything else for that matter. Must be too busy tweeting.

      • Bob Lipori

        So we just sit back and live with the tariffs other countries impose on us? I’m not opposed to a measured amount of retaliation. A little slap might jolt them back to reality.

        In less than two years, Trump has done more for the US than any president in my lifetime against incredible opposition, and I’ve been around long enough to see and compare past Presidents and their performances.

        • Howard Kirshenbaum

          Yeah, he has done more than any other president. Most all of it negative. Tell me what all those positives are. I’d love to hear them. From one old fart to another.

          • Kenny Albert

            Name one negative thing. He is undoing every disaster the last occupier of the white house, a useless piece of garbage inflicted on our country.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            No, he is vindictively undoing everything Obama did because he hates Obama and how he made him look at the Writers’ dinner. He also had to apologize for the birther fiasco. That still rankles him.

            So what did Obama do that was really so terrible. Besides Obamacare which the Republicans help make a disaster. Go into you echo chamber and come up with some good ones.

          • Bob Lipori

            Happy 4th of July,

            Here are a few of Trump accomplishments, by no means all. The left-wing media is finding it harder and harder to ignore them.

            Sure he made a few mistakes, who hasn’t? As with any president it would behoove us to focus on some of the good things he or they have done.

            Under President Trump we have seen ISIS effectively destroyed.

            The biggest tax cut in 31 years,

            The lowest unemployment rate in 17 years (including the lowest black unemployment rate ever recorded.)

            One of the healthiest and most robust stock markets in decades.

            Read a book a few of years ago called “Basic economics” by Thomas Sowell. The book totally repudiates the arguments of the so-called experts and left-wing politicians and pundits who have spent the last 17 months misleading the American people (it gets votes!) on how the economy works.

            His columns can be read on this site: http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell1.asp

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            “Under President Trump we have seen ISIS effectively destroyed.” And now he wants to make the same mistake as the former presidents and pull out. What happened before will happen again. They go underground and come up later when they think it is safe.

            “The biggest tax cut in 31 years,” The thing is, it didn’t have to be to get the same result for the average citizen. As a tax practitioner for over 50 years I know that what he did was unnecessary. He gave the bulk of the cuts to corporations who were flush with money and will use most all of that money for stock buybacks and dividends. 35% of that benefit will go to foreigners who will spend that money in their own countries and we will see none of it. Small businesses had their lowest tax bracket raised from 15% to 21%. And for this we will add $1.5 trillion to the debt. The average American will get peanuts in comparison and that goes away in a few years. An alternative would have been to give those corporations an incentive to pay the money out in wages by giving them a double deduction for all wages paid over that of the previous year. Very little went to bonuses and wage increases.

            “The lowest unemployment rate in 17 years (including the lowest black unemployment rate ever recorded.)” This is good but don’t give him all the credit. Look at where he got the economy and how well it was expanding when he first took office. The entire world economy was heating up at that time. The unemployment rate was already at low rate considering the recession we had after Bush.

            “One of the healthiest and most robust stock markets in decades.” You bet it is but then what was it when Obama took office? The S & P was 700 at it’s low with Obama and ended up at 2200. Three times higher. Yes, it’s higher but then Trump inherited a great economy in general no matter what he wants you to think. When he took office, corporations had more cash in reserve than they ever had. (another reason they didn’t need the tax break). And watch out for what might happen if this tariff war takes off. The last time we had one of those brought us back down into the Great Depression.

            I read the Sowell article. I don’t agree with him mainly because he is missing one very important piece of information. The wage differential exploded during that time. Statistics show that the average worker has had their wages increase just 2.5% over the rate of inflation over the last 35 years. The wages and income of the owners and executives increased 2500% over the rate of inflation in that time period. So, yeah, there was increased revenue to the government. So what. And Bush, whom he mentions also raised taxes as did Reagan later on in his administration. Also, Reagan came in with huge inflation what he helped moderate. That had a big effect on the wealth of the already wealthy. When you can get 15 year 17% CD during that time you really have the opportunity to balloon your wealth. The average worker didn’t have the money to be able to do that.

            So I am still really waiting to see all those great things Trump has done. For us, not for him and his wealthy cronies.

          • Bob Lipori

            Where do you get information from?

            WASHINGTON — The Trump administration has decided that it needs no new legal authority from Congress to indefinitely keep American military forces deployed in Syria and Iraq, even in territory that has been cleared of Islamic State fighters, according to Pentagon and State Department officials.

            In a pair of letters, the officials illuminated the Trump administration’s planning for an open-ended mission of forces in Syria beyond the Islamic State fight. Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson foreshadowed the plan in a speech last month, saying that troops will stay in Syria to curb Iran and prevent the Syrian government from reconquering rebel-held areas.

            Though Mr. Tillerson also cited a need to mop up the remnants of the Islamic State and keep from leaving a vacuum in which the group could regenerate, other administration officials put far greater emphasis on the extremists. In the letters, they said that the continued potential threat from the Islamic State provided a legal rationale for the Trump administration to keep American troops deployed there indefinitely.

            “Just as when we previously removed U.S. forces prematurely, the group will look to exploit any abatement in pressure to regenerate capabilities and reestablish local control of territory,” wrote David Trachtenberg, the deputy undersecretary of defense for policy.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            I agree with that assessment but I remember a statement by the president saying that he wants to pull our troops out eventually because it costs money and because we don’t need to be in every conflict in the world. Just that word eventually means that they will go underground for when they can “eventually” come back up.

      • truth and facts

        You are a worthless liberal know nothing. Make America Great Again.

        • Howard Kirshenbaum

          Worthless liberal know nothing. That sounds like your best shot of the day. So very Trumpian. No brains, just epithets, name calling and dumping out your mantra. SAD.

        • Ellabulldog

          He’s right and every economist knows this. Anyone with an understanding of the Great Depression knows this. It was the roaring twenties and then people suffered greatly for a generation. Older people today may have been born then or just after and have no recollection. Most of the Baby Boomers are spoiled and enjoyed the US and it’s prosperity because the world was decimated by WW2. They also spent and took more than they contributed thereby screwing their grandkids and leaving them with the bill.

          What part of history don’t you understand that America is just a country and great is subjective? When was it great? During the Depression? During Vietnam? For slaves? For women that could not vote for 130 years of this country’s existence? For blacks that dealt with Jim Crow laws or to Gays today that still struggle for equal rights?

          I’m against illegal immigration. We simply have to fine employers. It is that simple. Trump will not do it. He is a moron. He will hurt the US with his stupid tariff policies. He already hurt the US with his tax cuts for the rich.

          I’m sure you will run from these sites once things go bad. Or blame anyone but the emperor with no clothes.

      • Patriot2theCore

        And the Depression was drawn out because the Market was not allowed to correct itself. We always seem to have to dip our fingers in and try to stir the pot.

  • James Lancaster

    She worked at a bar in New York, took all the tips and didn’t want to share the tips with the other waitresses, she’s definitely a socialist. Gives away other people’s money and Pats themselves on the back. But don’t ask a socialist the given me their own money aways.

    • Rodney

      Typical leftist hypocrite. Dems have always been the worst tippers and the biggest spenders of OUR money.

  • Knowledge Transfer

    The demo’s became socialists shortly after the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO was revealed in 1860. Inch by incremental inch enslavement gradually become a cinch.

    • Howard Kirshenbaum

      And the repubes just want bigger and bigger government. Just look at the government’s own numbers regarding the size of government and the cost. Then look at the programs that have caused our debt and you will see that the repubes are far in the lead.

      • Knowledge Transfer

        Just one of the goals within the COMMUNIST TAKEOVER OF AMERICA is: “capture one or both political parties in the USA.”

        • Howard Kirshenbaum

          They seem to be much closer to the Republican Party than the Democratic Party.
          I am not so sure that we have anything close to communism but you are more than welcome to enlighten me. How are we even close. Actually what do you think is communistic about our country. Actually Communism and Socialism aren’t really the same thing.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Just three of the PLANKS of the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO were installed during the administration of Woodrow Wilson. Can you name them? Every one of the planks of the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO have been fully achieved and are part and parcel of the American body politic and one and the same with the democrat party platform. Thus the rotting of America from the inside out via “gradualism”. Like Nikita Khrushchev so cogently stated: “We will give the American people small doses of socialism until one day they will wake up to find they are ruled by Communism [or words to that effect]”.

            “To each according to their needs from each according to their means” is the essence of COMMUNISM and the hallmark of the democrat party. If the non-productive are treated the same as the productive, why ever be productive?

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            Well, let’s take a good look at that.
            #1. Abolition of private property. Well I still OWN my own property. I pay property taxes as a means of getting services locally such as good schools, police and fire protection, waste treatment, etc. If my local government does a good job, my property value stays high or even grows. I reap the profit from that. Does the government own some of the land in the country? Yes. But they don’t own all of it. And if I don’t pay may share how will I reap the benefit of government services. I elect all of our local positions from multiple choices. That’s not communism.

            #2 A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. Well, if it was a real flat tax the people who don’t have enough money to put food on the table or a roof over their head would have even less. And the truth is, they do pay taxes. What you are looking at is only federal income tax. Poor people pay real estate taxes through their rent and they pay sales taxes in most states. So they don’t get off free of all tax. Someone has to pay for the government. The wealthy are the ones that get the most benefit so they pay the most tax. That’s not communism but it’s close.

            #3 Abolition of all rights of inheritance. $22 million is what a couple gets to shield from tax. 99% of the country don’t pay that tax. And everyone passes their assets to their beneficiaries. Not communism by a long shot.

            #4 Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. What you fail to see is the word ALL. Specific cases, possibly, but by no means all.

            #5 Centralization of credit in the hands of the state. The state having the exclusive monopoly. Well we do have a central bank but that usually deals internationally and with other banks in the country. Credit and lending is done by free enterprise banks who make profits, unlike Communism where there is ONLY a central bank.

            #6 Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state. Well Amtrak would be the closest thing there is and it is trying to run on a profit basis. It also pays tax to the government. And you can’t tell me that we have state run communications what with all the channels all making money for their shareholders.

            #7 Extension of factories and instruments of productions by the state. I don’t think this even comes close. No government tells us what to produce and how much to charge. Not communism.

            #8 Equal liability of all to labor. Yes we have a minimum wage. Yes we have Social Security. Yes we have Medicare. But wait. We pay for Social Security all our working days. Same with Medicare. One is retirement plan and one is prepayment of health insurance. We contract with the government for those benefits that we will get in our older years. What is the purpose for all of these? To make sure that we are able to not be destitute while working and during retirement.

            #9 Gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country and the equitable distribution of population over the country. Please tell me where that is actually happening. It doesn’t. Not communism.

            #10 Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor. I think the free education in public schools was well established in this country well before the manifesto was written. And now please don’t tell me you are for the abolition of the child labor laws. So this has nothing to do with Communism.

            What you mistake are rules that we as a capitalist country has made for ourselves in order to have some semblance of order across the entire large country. Yes, we have laws and rule and taxes but that, in and of itself doesn’t make us Communist. Far from it. The fact that we have laws of benevolence that take care of people with disabilities with welfare and other assistance does not make us Communist.

            “”To each according to their needs from each according to their means” ” At this point in our history there are way too many people who are not getting their needs met. Not that they aren’t trying, most do. There are too many people willing to take advantage of others by paying them less than a living wage for a full day’s work. Not a wage for a luxurious life style but enough to get by. Like my dad was able to do when I was growing up. So as far as communism goes, we are a long way away from those ideals. The government might have rules but it is far from actually controlling all the things necessary to call it communism.

          • Kenny Albert

            Who in the government owns federal land? That is our land.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            It’s not who in the government. It IS the government that owns a lot of land in the western states. But that still has nothing to do with communism which was the discussion.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Stupid!

          • Craig

            Imbecile !

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Stop dancing. Name the 3 planks of the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO that were installed during the Marxist administration of comrade Woodrow Wilson. Why did FDR say: “I see nothing wrong with the communists in this country. Some of the best friends I have are communists.” What about the 45 goals for the COMMUNIST TAKEOVER OF AMERICA which were read into the Congressional Record on January, 1963. Why is it that all of these malevolent goals have been accomplished through Lenin’s dictum: “The Lie is Sacred” and the principles of “gradualism” and “incrementalism” knowing that inch by inch enslavement to toxic totalitarian government.

            You have either chosen ignorance or you have been mislead. I suggest you secure the following books for vigorous study: 1) The American Betrayal by Diana West; 2) Stalin’s Secret Agents by M. Stanton Evans and Herbert Romerstein; 3)The Naked Communist by Dr. Cleon Skousen.

            Communism means dragging everyone down the the lowest level save for the elites. With Communism eventually everyone gets the same exact things in the same exact amounts while no one ever [save for the elites] gets enough of anything. I discourages initiative. If those who work receive the same as those who don’t work, why work? 50% of those who make enough money to file federal income taxes, don’t pay any federal income tax thus forcing the remaining 50% to pay 100% of the taxes. When charity is COERCED, it ceases being charity and instead becomes THEFT.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            I see nothing wrong with ultra conservatives. Some of my best friends are conservatives. That doesn’t mean that I agree with them on anything. They just happen to be good people. What your party affiliation is should have nothing to do with how a person behaves. I think that was the gist of the FDR comment. They wanted him to disown anyone who was in the communist party.

            That the 45 goals for the communist takeover of America was read into the Congressional Record in 1963 doesn’t mean that it was something that congress was gunning for. It was to put into the record something to look out for. It also might have been a filibuster and that was what they read. I don’t take anything subversive from that. Lots of weird things have been written into the Congressional record. Think of the Ted Cruz filibuster where he read a children’s book.

            “The Lie is Sacred” IS right on point. This is the first time I will take that statement to heart and only because it happens so often and that the president doubles down on them. All presidents tell some lies. I understand that but this one tells so many that they become sacred to so many of his followers.

            ” If those who work receive the same as those who don’t work, why work?” I would agree with that if it was true. One doesn’t receive as much in welfare as they do working. Now if you take into account free education for their children, then maybe but everyone gets that. And most people don’t want to be a burden on society. When you look at the statistics of those on welfare, you see most are working and a great percentage of those are working full time. As I said before, my daughter received welfare while her husband was working full time. For the Navy.

            Again, you only look at federal income taxes. As a tax practitioner for over 50 years I have actually done the numbers. Poor people will pay about 20% of their gross on social security, medicare and state income tax and sales tax and real estate tax and excise taxes. So it’s not true that they pay no taxes at all.

            Do you want to get rid of welfare? Then you mandate a living wage. Businesses hire people to do a job because they need that job done to run that business. If they need the person, they should pay them a wage that at least covers their basic necessities. Do that and you cut welfare to only those that aren’t able to work and earn. In effect, a good deal of welfare is corporate welfare so they can keep their bloated profits.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Bigger isn’t better. Better is better. If you want more, become more. Strong families make moot the need for big government. Those closest to those who truly have the need to be helped are ALWAYS the best at determining such needs together with private charities through the principles of subsidiarity- not a ceaseless collection of suffocating and ever growing state run bureaucracies whose motives are to metastasize themselves at the expense of everyone else. That’s why strong families are now the exception vs. the norm. SEE THE 45 GOALS FOR THE COMMUNIST TAKEOVER OF AMERICA. When charity is coerced, it ceases to be charity because it becomes theft. That’s why the father of the United States Constitution, James Madison, said: “Charity is no part of the duties of the federal government.” WHY HAVEN’T YOU RESPONDED TO THE NAMING OF THE 3 PLANKS WITHIN THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO THAT WERE INSTALLED DURING THE MARXIST ADMINISTRATION OF WOODROW WILSON? WHY HAVE YOU IGNORED THE 45 GOALS FOR THE COMMUNIST TAKEOVER OF AMERICA?

            Communism is godless; soulless; life hating; family destroying; baby killing; sodomy saluting; and wealth redistributing madness. High expectations have always been the key determinate for growth, development and progress. In the USA poverty should always be a choice not an inherited condition. Far too many have been conditioned by big government to wallow in and justify low expectations in perpetuity because they are envious of those who don’t fear failure. These losers want to drag everyone down to their low level so that they can spread their your misery loves company agenda thus giving them lowered equality and so they don’t feel so bad about themselves.

            Coercive big government is much like the cigarette companies who were not in the tobacco business but rather in the NICOTINE business. Nicotine is addictive. Nicotine for coercive big government is DEPENDENCY on coercive big government via stealing wealth from those who earned it and then using that wealth as if it were NICOTINE to enslave the weak.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            “WHY HAVEN’T YOU RESPONDED TO THE NAMING OF THE 3 PLANKS WITHIN THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO THAT WERE INSTALLED DURING THE MARXIST ADMINISTRATION OF WOODROW WILSON?” Probably because I think you know what the answer is.

            But in case you don’t know, I would think you are referring to the income and estates taxes and eminent domain.l The truth is that we had an income tax before that. The United States imposed income taxes briefly during the Civil War and the 1890’s. This wasn’t about communism it was about having enough money to support an army for the possibility of a war. Same with eminent domain. They had the right to take the land only in an emergency. In all other cases there had to be a good reason and the person would be paid. That’s why the wall will be so expensive. The government will have to prove that it is needed and all parties would have to be paid a fair price.
            As for inheritance tax, just look at the exemption and that tells you that there really is very little that is subject to tax. It is not full confiscation like the manifesto mentions. And because of that tax there is a benefit to the beneficiaries in that all the gain in value will never be taxed even if you never pay the tax. Doesn’t sound to communistic to me.

            Based on the writings and your take of things if just points me to the conclusion that you really don’t want to have to pay for anything. You surely won’t build your own roads or have your own fire protection or military that you pay for by yourself. Someone has to pay something. This is the way we figured out how to do it. I don’t see the need for this conspiracy theory.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Is your favorite dance the “Let’s Do the Twist” by Chubby Checker? Your answers do not meet the vigor of holistic historic FACTS and you continue to ignore what you refuse to address. You simply act as if what was written and asked wasn’t written ad asked. You never learned or failed to practice: “give me a fish and I eat for a day. Teach me to fish and I eat for a lifetime.” Like all good elitists you champion: “I have mine. You can’t have yours because there isn’t enough for everyone.” You have to keep others down because you fear losing your customer base.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            “”give me a fish and I eat for a day. Teach me to fish and I eat for a lifetime.” ” Good saying. It says that education can really help. Fine but you seem to rail at free education as being communistic. You also fail to realize that you may know how to fish now and it would put fish on your table but there are many other things that are needed for the economy that won’t put food on the table. And there are many jobs that need to be done that just need hard work and not education.
            I don’t champion the I have mine mantra at all. You don’t even know what I do have. My thought is to make things available so that all people will have enough for themselves. In some cases, that involves government and just because it involves government doesn’t make it communist.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Theft isn’t charity. Wealth redistribution is theft.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            So what is your solution?

          • Knowledge Transfer

            If someone feeds from the trough, they must contribute to the contents of the trough. The best way is a consumption tax whereby everybody pays the EXACT SAME EQUAL RATE. And the abolition of coerced charity which engenders generational dependency and catastrophic DEBT due to vote selling and buying.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            We have a consumption tax. It’s called a sales tax. Everyone who buys a coke in Illinois pays the same amount. Everyone who buys clothing in their given state pays the same as everyone else in that state for the same item. Now, what would you add on to that?

          • Knowledge Transfer

            The same should occur at the federal level. Since the federal government can collect a consumption tax within all 50 states, plenty of money will exist for the vital requirements for a country founded on the Declaration of Independence FROM coercive big government – the British Empire. Keeping and protecting private property are among the vital requirements.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            The concept is that you pay what you can afford. You have a base to live on and anything over that is taxed. If you had a flat tax with the basic cost of living deducted then the same people would be paying the tax. The only difference would be that the rich would keep more and the middle class would pay. Our country is based on a really strong middle class. That is being eroded. If the middle class loses income, they don’t buy products which hurts the economy as a whole. You want to change it? Come up with a viable alternative with a solid basis in economics. And then, don’t forget, the cost of living varies drastically from area to area in the country.

            Our economy, despite the tax law, is doing great, better than almost any other time. Why you think that this is a terrible system (no matter what you want to connect it to) is beyond me.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Yet another moronic; malevolent and Marxist comment from a mindless myrmidon.

          • Ellabulldog

            Trillions in debt I don’t think the economy is doing that great. I see many doing well but quite a few still struggling. I think it is a mirage.

            You are correct that the middle class is disappearing. That is why I don’t see the economy as doing that great.

            Many are just one job loss or medical crisis from bankruptcy. Unless they have a guaranteed pension. The stock market is in a bubble now too…Trump’s tariffs may send us over the edge.

            Hope I’m wrong.

          • Craig

            You commit theft every time you inhale oxygen

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Good. Less Oxygen for Perverts who practice perversion.

          • Craig

            Like the church ?

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Cancer cells are being removed.

          • Craig

            You cant just remove some cells, you need to remove the whole tumour 😉

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Inch by inch [as President Trump has so rapidly proven] removing and then killing cancer cells is a cinch! And it’s more fun to watch the deadly agonize at their incremental demise.

          • Craig

            Hahahaha silly deluded primitive 🙂

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Squirm! Squirm! Squirm! Your anxiety is motivational.

          • Craig

            Squirm ? Im chill as cucumber XD

          • Knowledge Transfer

            You will likely have a chance to prove it FP.
            Why don’t you remove the BURR from under
            your saddle?

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Was the 16th amendment, which was and is a carbon copy of the second plank of the, COMMUNIST MANIFESTO “a heavy progressive income tax” temporary of permanent?

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            It is now permanent but the manifesto doesn’t say permanent. My point was that there was an income tax before the manifesto was written so that it wasn’t a new concept to the country. It was something that was needed at the time and through many iterations of government it has become one of the ways that the government is funded. How would you have it any different?
            Not everything government is about communism.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            The Arthur Murray School of Dance graduate dances on.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            Stop bragging. So you can dance well. We all have our pluses.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Wowie! What a potent response! Go Sandra Fluke yourself. Strong letter to follow!

          • Craig

            A strong letter ? Bet he is s***** himself XD

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Incoherent!

          • Craig

            Imbecile

          • Knowledge Transfer

            You look in the mirror and see your reflection staring back at you and then you blame others for the reflection you yourself caused.

          • Craig

            Do you really have nothing better to do with your sad lonely little life ?

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Great auto-biographical statement!

          • Craig

            XD

          • Knowledge Transfer

            The INHERITANCE TAX better known as the DEATH TAX was supposed to be temporary to help fund WWI. Temporary????????

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            Funny how governments do that. They pass something that is temporary and before it ends they make it permanent. Both parties do that.
            Considering how little it brings in (it’s about .6% of their revenue and that will fall with the new limits in place), no one would miss it if they got rid of it. That includes most all of the people who pay it.

          • truth and facts

            liberals are still the problem troll

          • Kenny Albert

            Progressive democrats are the communists you blind, deaf and dumb idiot.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            Really? How so? What are they gunning for that makes them communists? Wanting equality for groups of people you don’t like? Or maybe it’s trying to consider others less fortunate that you might be. Or maybe it’s the idea that religion has no place in the making of the laws of the land.

            Now it’s your turn. How about a civil answer.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            How about a clear mind.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            He’s stupid.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            They are kissing cousins. What did Lenin say about socialism as pertains to communism?

      • truth and facts

        You are a socialist liberal commie.

        • Howard Kirshenbaum

          Very Trumpian of you. Nothing to say so lump the person and call him names. You’re a sad dude. Next time try conversing.

      • Patriot2theCore

        Well we can do away with the Education department at the Federal level, Energy, Health and Human services. You liberals want the Federal Government to be in charge of as much as possible; we have far outstripped the Constitutional bounds set forth by the Founders regarding what responsibilities need to be left to the Federal Gov’t and which ones ought to be reserved to the states and the people. For instance not everyone is the same but you insist on having the Federal HHS; You prefer paying people an allowance over helping them obtain work and often times that welfare check is enough to stifle any incentive to work so now this country is paying out nearly a Trillion Dollars just in welfare and Social security but God help the Republicans if they even hint at talking reform.

        • Howard Kirshenbaum

          How ignorant can you be lumping welfare and social security together. I don’t know how old you are but I and my employer paid into social security for close to sixty years (the last 35 I was the employee and employer). That was my promised pension based on my investment. That is just like your 401k plan. Shall you consider that welfare when you start to take that out? Get real.

          You seem to think that people can live on welfare. They can’t. It is a supplement to cover necessities. Most people getting it are working, many full time. My daughter got some welfare when she was much younger in spite of the fact that her husband was working full time. What was his job that he was paid so little? Oh, he was in the Navy. Many people receiving welfare work full time for places like Walmart or McDonalds who are too cheap to pay a living wage. So the welfare is really going to the companies so they can be allowed to pay lousy wages and have a higher profit margin. Did you know that McDonalds could pay a living wage and not lose any profit by raising prices on everything on their menu by a nickel? True.

          And, yes, god help anyone who talks about reform especially when the Republicans talk about privatizing Medicare and giving it companies that have to build in a profit which would cut benefits, of changing Social Security to break the promise that all the present beneficiaries of their pension plan are getting.

          And just remember, Social Security has a $2 trillion surplus invested in U S government securities. That should take us to 2035. Does something need to be done? Yes, just like in the past. Reducing benefits now is not the answer. Come up with a better one.

          • Kenny Albert

            If you work at Wal Mart or McDonald’s and think you are going to make a living you are an idiot to begin with. That’s why they work there. Too lazy or dumb to get a job that pays a living wage.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            Let’s see. If you work at a restaurant cleaning tables are you too lazy or dumb? What would the restaurant look like if no one cleaned the tables? Would it get good ratings or have enough business? Would people come in for the good food if the place was dirty? That’s the point. Everyone who works for that restaurant makes it what it is. Therefore all should be able to live off that wage. It is not a wage that gives you any luxury but enough to put food on the table, clothes on your back and a roof over your head.

            That concept goes for every business. When it comes to big corporations which have been able to amass huge reserves there is no reason no to pay the least of those people a decent wage. Everyone makes the place run or the job wouldn’t be needed. When the person has to get welfare to make ends meet and is not getting a living wage, that is corporate welfare, not welfare to the person. It is money that allows them to reap higher profits at the expense of their employees.
            Pay the living wage and you cut welfare substantially. That, then, cuts government spending and that helps it be fiscally responsible.

      • Knowledge Transfer

        We have cunning and conniving communists on the LEFT and cowards and capitulators on the RIGHT.

        • Craig

          Still waiting for you jesus boy 🙂

        • Howard Kirshenbaum

          Funny but it’s the right that has the control and is doing what the manifesto says.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Lame and lazy lying Leninism at its best.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            You bet it is. Just what they are doing.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            You are the “they”!

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            I’m not advocating any of that.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Everything you say proves that you are. Where did you receive
            your degree in CONVOLUTION?

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            Sorry, you must be wrong. I’ve never been to Convolution. What country is that in?

          • Knowledge Transfer

            You a have a habit of misstating what people said while also misstating what people didn’t say. I never said you were ever at Convolution. I asked you were did you receive your degree in CONVOLUTION. Look up the definition the word “twist” and “tortuous winding’s are tailor made for those who have minds that are all mixed up and permanently set.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            My god, don’t you have any concept of sarcasm?

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Practicing “The Lie is Sacred” dogma yet again…blame shifting; finger pointing and scapegoat making.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            Where?

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Look – no – stare in your Marxist mirror.

          • Steve

            Great gives us plenty of time to save the country from their previously proven, failed”Commie” bullsh_ t! “,God bless the child that’s got ( earned ) his own”!

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            Thank you, I will take that blessing.

          • Steve

            The leftists!

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            No, the Trumpians.

          • Craig

            You cant call anyone lazy XD its been almost 3 months and still you have not come to “smite” me 😉

          • Steve

            Man you got to stop breathing all that methane and get your head out of where the sun don’t shine!

        • Steve

          And an idiot that just said that!

          • Knowledge Transfer

            You really need to stop looking in your murky mirror as you rifle off your pathetic FIRE; READY; AIM hallucinogenic rants.

          • Craig

            Look whos talking XD

          • Knowledge Transfer

            “Whos”??? And can’t your butt buddy speak for himself/herself/itself?

          • Craig

            In sure they can, but i enjoy reading your ridiculous responses 😉

      • Steve

        Where’d you learn your political science, Pravda? The Republicans have always been for SMALLER government and cutting taxes! The “Commiecrats” are the “tax and spend, bigger government party. The Republicans are for the FREEDOM the founding fathers gave us, the “Commiecrats” oppression and control. So your blessed, you’ve “got your own”? Good, you won’t mind giving it all to your have nots. ( The only thing you seem to be blessed with is an elitist attitude! Your a waste of time! )

        • Howard Kirshenbaum

          That’s what the republicunts would like you to believe. (Only using that term because you started it) Just think of how the government ballooned during Bush. That wasn’t smaller government at all. Look at the deficit and which programs caused it to balloon. Reagan and Bush policies did that.
          Funny, you don’t sound oppressed. You just would rather not have any rules in your life. But that is what government is partially for. It is interesting that the Republicunts cut taxes (and in many cases have to increase them later), cause deficits and build government and then the Democrats need to raise those taxes to pay for the deficits created by the Republicunts. You are the waste of humanity.

    • Craig

      Hi primitive 🙂 whats taking you so long to come and “smite me” 🙂

      • Knowledge Transfer

        Go back and play in your unflused toilet!

        • Craig

          Its Unflushed, and to think you were giving someone else grief the other day for spelling mistakes, silly primitive XD

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Ah! Poor little fudge packer picking on someone who is nearly blind.

          • Craig

            Awww sorry 🙁 Are you nearly blind because of how old and decrepit you are ? XD

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Arse hole!

          • Craig

            😉

          • Craig

            So….how much longer do i need to “stand by” ? 🙂

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Not much longer as is being proven fudgie.

          • Craig

            The only thing you have proven is you are as powerless as your “god”

          • Knowledge Transfer

            When you make your Fecal Fudge Sunday’s 7 days per week and eat them 12 to 18 hours per day, do you make them and eat them with or without peanuts or nuts?

          • Craig

            You sure love to talk about feces…….got a little kinky fetish ? XD

          • Knowledge Transfer

            It’s your PRIDE not mine!

          • Craig

            Keep telling yourself that mate XD

  • EC

    There’s far too much focus on building a wall at the border. Much of the illegal immigration could be stopped overnight if we stopped the handouts to everyone who shows up at our doorstep. My relatives all arrived from Europe in the late 1800’s and weren’t given a damn thing – they either had to sink or swim. There was no safety net. These lightweights today not only come here illegally, but then have the audacity to demand freebies from a system that they’ve contributed NOTHING to. And liberal Americans stupidly agree to all their demands, pushed by the ultra left Democratic Party whose ONLY goal is more votes to stay in power. The Democrats only believe in a handout, not a hand up. If people really began to thrive, they’d realize that the Democrats’ principles were only holding them down. Better to keep these people down and throw them an occasional bone, thereby reinforcing how much they still need the liberal agenda.

    • Rodney

      What about that 20%+- who come here for criminal reasons? They aren’t here to live off welfare but to take what isn’t theirs, bring in drugs and human cargo. We still need the wall. Less then 50% of those crossing are Mexican and those non-Mexican crossers are of 75 nationalities including many various terror groups aside from MS13.

      • truth and facts

        You are 100% correct.

        • Rodney

          It is up to we little people to tell the truth. Our republicats don’t seem capable of taking back the narrative.

  • Rodney

    Bubba Clinton was the first to admit the leftist plan. It’s the first time in memory I heard the term “Incrementalism” to explain how we would be turned into socialist/Marxists. Since, the left has weaseled their way further to the left all the while blaming the right for not working with them. Many of the moderate, progressive republicats appeased the left and were shamed into following them. I see the Republicats (RINO’s) slowly being replaced now. I also see a lot of young conservatives coming on board. I hope and pray they don’t follow the patterns of the past and be swayed by the special interest money and move left.

  • Socialism only works until they run out of other people’s money. Throughout history socialism has never worked anywhere. Only capitalism and a free market economy can survive and make people happy. Socialism leads to depression of the soul and mind. It is evil.

    • Steve

      People just don’t learn. There’s always somebody who wants something for nothing!

      • Howard Kirshenbaum

        Unfortunately there are always people that NEED something for nothing because they can’t for themselves. You want to see a something for nothing situation just look at Congress. Serve two years and you get a lifetime pension and medical benefits.

    • truth and facts

      !00% correct and spot on. Wake up America. These illegals come from dictatorrun countries and that is all they know. Thats why the liberal democrats want them to get drivers license ect so they can vote for the liberal commie democrats. Wake up people. .

    • Ellabulldog

      Capitalism will not work on it’s own. Free markets would be a great thing but none exist.

      Now when you find a true capitalist system or one that is a free market let me know.
      Then we can test your assertion.

      There may be no perfect system but being an absolutist isn’t the answer.

  • Rob Waddell

    Each, and every, politician swears an oath to abide by, and protect, the Constitution, so Socialists who take that oath, with one hand on the Bible, are liars, and to me, treasonous! That is exactly what Obama’s fake ass did!

  • Howard Kirshenbaum

    Is socialism the future for the Democrats? No. Most all don’t want anywhere near a socialist society. But some socialism isn’t bad. The VA is socialist. Social Security and Medicare is somewhat socialist. No one that I know is going for having the government control everything as in a purely socialist society.

    • truth and facts

      lying nutcase.

      • Howard Kirshenbaum

        You are absolutely right and he’s in the White House and I bet you voted for him.
        You were conned by one of the best.

    • Marine68

      It is not for lack of trying that they have not succeeded in turning the Country Communist. The 2nd Amendment is their main obstruction in the hands of Patriots that refuse to live in tyranny, which is all that Socialism offers.

      • Howard Kirshenbaum

        This social liberal wants nothing to do with communism, pure socialism or fascism. None of my liberal friends do either. I don’t see liberals trying to go out and take everyone’s guns away. Heck, even Obama did nothing to do that. It’s just a figment in the conservative mind that is the rallying point for their group.

        Keep your guns. What needs to be controlled is the registration of guns, actual military guns, additions to guns that simulate military guns and huge ammunition magazines. Just some common sense rules that will keep some people safer. Go hunting, keep the guns in your house for safety, heck, even carry them outside. Most liberals don’t care about that at all. Maybe it will be safer. There is a middle ground, you know.

        By the way, I am also a fiscal conservative. Don’t put me in one of your boxes.

        • Marine68

          There is only one common sense rule in reference to guns, make no laws prohibiting them. Crimes committed with them should be punished severely and without any more mercy than the victims of those crimes received. Guns as the 2nd Amendment intends, are for protection from tyrannical Government, and should be at least of similar ability to the standing Army.

          • Howard Kirshenbaum

            We will just have to agree to disagree on that one.

  • Socialism is not what our country needs!! A socialist movement will be the beginning of the end to Democracy!! What we need in this country, are elected officials that really care about our country and our people!! The GOP is about the rich, the Democrats have always been for the blue collar workers and now all one hears is the left, the liberals, the right, what the hell is going on in this country!! This is the greatest country in the world and we are going to set on our asses and watch it go right down the drain. As a veteran, I can only hope that the people that really care for this country (our country), will stand up and get back to the basics, of what has made our country what it has been for the last couple a hundred years. Socialism may be okay in other parts of the world, but not in our country. I think the late President Kennedy said it best, when he said “ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country”. What has happened to the United States of America?? Why are we standing by, doing nothing, as the people in Washington D.C. bleeds our country dry?? The representatives we have in Washington D.C., including the president, are not for the people, that made this country what it is or has been, they are for themselves. We have a president that can not tell the truth, about anything, he would not know the truth if it jumped up and bit him on the rear and we have politicians, that are so afraid of him, that they are willing to be part of the destruction of our democracy. The rich individuals that Trump has placed in the high cabinet posts, are not trying to do things for this country, they are sending the help out to find jobs for their spouse or they are furthering their own agenda. People we need to wake up and smell the coffee, clear our heads and come November go to the polls and put the people in office that are for our people and our country, people that will help the working class of our country, bring back the jobs we have lost without causing unnecessary strife and ill feelings. Take the time to look back at what as really taken place over the last eighteen months, take the time to consider what has really been done to help our people or our country, then ask yourself if this is really what you want for our country and our people, because in the long run we are going to come out the losers on the bottom of the deck, if thing keep going in the direction they are headed at the present time!! Seriously, stop and consider what it means to be an American citizen in this screwed up world we live in. We are turning our backs on our allies, we go against everything we have always protected and fought for, we are the laughing stock of the world, we are slowly losing our reputation, of being the country that cares for the rest of the world, we have turned off the beacon of light to freedom and we have closed our doors to the people of the world that need help and guidance. We are no longer a loving country, we are slowly sliding backward to full blown racism, which in Gods eyes a sin in itself. We should not forget that all people were created equal, regardless of their ethnic background, the color of their skin or their religious beliefs or their WEALTH!! People this is our country!! Lets keep it our country and do the right thing come NOVEMBER!!! IF WE DO NOT DO THIS FOR OURSELVES, WE CAN NOT EXPECT OTHERS TO DO IT FOR US!!

  • dolittle

    it has always been the demorats veiws it’s just now coming out in the open we are fulfilling every one of the bible call me what you say there is no god but there definitely is and he is coming back sooner than people think

  • truth and facts

    Mad maxine and corrupt hillary are the face of the liberal commie democrat party. Lets take America back people. Vote those democrats out.

  • Ken

    That is the path that Obama led us down and Hillary would have, had she the chance. If you don’t agree you are only fooling yourself.

  • raymond

    These poor dumb ass liberal young people have NO idea about how economics works , or for that matter how anything works….they cannot think for themselves, think everything is free and they have to have a safe place so they are not harmed or their little snowflake feelings hurt…..LMAO at these stupid young adults….

  • RC

    Is Socialism in the future of the Democrats? They’re already Socialists. In my opinion there are no Democrats. They’re Socialists to the core and people had better wake up. Try reading the definition of Socialism in the dictionary. If these idiots who feel that’s the way to go, they’d better not own anything because under Socialist rule, the government will take everything we have. Also, I recently watched a film clip of the ‘great’ leader of the USSR giving a speech. In it he said they have to cheat, steal, kill and lie to stay in power. In case some of the younger people haven’t studied any history, Stalin was a Socialist (Communist) of the highest order.

  • J Bryan Jensen

    Future of the Democratic is already here. It is unabashed full blown communism. By their fruits they are known.

  • Grand Pano

    There’s really NO SUCH THING as a FREE LUNCH! (“West Side Story”–Broadway Musical:
    “Everything’s FREE in AMERICA!” (For a small fee…in America!)

  • David S

    Ms. Cortez may have received a minor victory, but when the people of the Bronx, her voting district, get the bill for “FREE” they, if rational in mind, will immediately know there’s no such thing as a “free lunch”. Someone pays, and it needs to rest on them, if of course she gets elected. Hopefully, there are some sane minds in the Bronx to cast their vote with the future in mind and its IMPACT!.

  • Socialism among the leftists is mandatory it’s when they get enough power and it becomes communism that the shit hits the fan, stay armed and alert my friends.

  • bobbylang

    I think Duckworth is in a “Hard Place” as a democrat! She is pretty rational as she acknowledges the need for the Midwest Vote for Presidential elections, and the mid-terms needing a very local understanding and commitment!
    It’s “Hard”. for “Dem’s”, with such a migrating commitment of the Democrats Leadership, who are racing toward the extreme “Left”!!
    Personally, as a Republican, I WANT the “Socialist/Communist” intention out in the open, so more marginally involved voters see their threat!
    If I had my way, I’d assure all the voting records were as secure as the Nuclear plans, and purged of all those phony “grubbers” who vote illegally!! I’d love to see them all finally put in their place!! Especially the Illegals, who “sandbag” so many close elections (like Al Franken’s)!!
    It’s as important as the Tax Cut!!!